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Wyrd Folk Classic Artist Profile

 

Continuing the profiling of classic artists who have contributed to the 'wyrder' side of folk music we come to a very unacknowledged band of the late 1960s.

 

Forest                Check or Buy Mr Fox at Amazon UK

UK 1968 - 1971

 

The background of UK folk music

During the mid-1960s there was an explosion of interest in traditional folk music around the UK inspired by Bob Dylan but more importantly by the folk revival initially created by Ewan MacColl and others such as Bert Lloyd in the late 1950s.  Young people joined folk clubs and some started tracking down the original traditional songs preserved at Cecil Sharpe House.  For many musicians and singers they would become purists, only singing and often recording the traditional songs.  The idea of actually writing songs in the folk style was often abhorrent to them and many highly respected and pivotal artists like The Watersons and Ashley Hutchings would not consider writing their own material until the 1970s.  While these traditional purists developed the original songs a number of young people saw folk music as a framework which they could write within.  This created a new form as folk music became merged with other influences.  Two UK bands, Pentangle and Incredible String Band would prove hugely influential to a young generation in crossing over folk music with other forms and perhaps most important of all, they also achieved chart success with it with their albums getting into the UK top ten.  Forest saw this evolution and were inspired to write their own songs similarly with other bands of the time such as Dulcimer, Synanthesia, Bread Love and Dreams and Tea and Symphony.  These bands struggled to gain the same success as the aforementioned two bands not having the contacts, management and production.  However many of these bands around at that time made strong albums of their own and Forest in particular established a unique sound.

 

 

A Merry Group of Minstrels and Pranksters

 

The band originally came from Walesby in Lincolnshire, a nice community but not one likely to launch a nationwide folk band.  The band perhaps realising this moved to Birmingham which had a more thriving folk scene in which they could perform.  The band had been known as 'The Foresters of Walesby' before becoming 'The Foresters' and then 'Forest'.  The band was not successful and lived a kind of hippy existence mixing tranquility and squalor, often living in their van.

 

Over time the band picked up more gigs and played at a few festivals along the way.  This bought them to the attention of Harvest, then a new and highly regarded progressive label looking to sign up it's share of alternative artists from each genre.  The band were drawn to the attention  of DJ John Peel who had been on pirate stations then in the Radio 1 line up (where amazingly he remained until his death playing alternative music).   At that time John Peel was one of the most foremost proponents of folk music championing early Fairport Convention, Principal Edwards Magical Theatre Band, Marc Bolan (pre-T-Rex) and also Forest.

 

Forest comprised the following members:

  • Martin Welham - 12 string guitar, harmonium piano, pipes, percussion

  • Derek Allenby - mandolin, harmonica, pipes harmonium, percussion

  • Hadrian Welham - all instruments

 

Music from the forest glade

 

Forest released two albums, the first in 1969 which is not reputed to have sold well but certainly enabled the release of the second album in 1970.  Interestingly a single was released in 1969 which pared 'Searching for Shadows' which was not on either album and 'Mirror of Life' which was on the first.

 

All of this would mark the band as an obscurity of only minor interest until you listen to their music.  Immediately it becomes apparent that this is not traditional folk music as we know it, there are no old songs, the performances are not simple renditions.  Equally this is not folk-rock, the dynamics are not straight forward, there is little rhythmic emphasis.  Instead we have a surreal evocation of the hidden parts of a lost pagan existence concerned with the remote, strange dark aspects of earlier life.  It is like listening to ancient folklore given voice in the same way that Arthur Machen often in books like 'The Novel of the Black Seal' gave a glimpse of the same hidden parts of Britain in writing.

 

The songs are loosely normal in that they use conventional verse and chorus and have normal instruments such as guitar and harmonica.  This may evoke Bob Dylan and while his surreal word play might be a reference point musically this has little in common.  Of more direct influence seems to be the impish instability of Syd Barrett in the early Pink Floyd line-up and the nonsensical lyrics of their first album.

 

Vocals are in harmony, weaving around each other, nasal, sometimes atonal but carrying twisting and evolving melodies.  This is not music with an ounce of compromise, it has a vision and clear intent.  In this respect like their closest peers Incredible String Band they can initially be quite a daunting listen.  It's perhaps a given here that they won't be appreciated by everyone (or perhaps even all folk fans) being such a unique proposition.  Although there are not a huge amount of layers it is quite individual, unique and vividly intense.  This intensity can be intimidating but as you sit and listen the harmonies, melodies and arrangements are gradually revealed.

 

'One last chance to move round the circle and begin again.  But the dangers only remain if you want them to'.  ('Do Not Walk In The Rain' off Full Circle sleeve note).

 

There is a church like element to some of the songs like early hymns and the use of pipe and reed organs within the sound can reinforce this.  The guitars pick out chiming and mysterious patterns.  A listener may feel they are hearing a riddle that they cannot initially understand, there are no drums or bass guitars and the lyrics while evocative often reveal little.  Some songs like 'Rain On My Balcony' or 'Do You Want Some Smoke?' have a playful Puckish quality.

 

With the use of mandolin and pipes the sound often evokes nature as though giving the mischievous mythical figure of Pan breath.  Interestingly these instruments often associated with Celtic music here are assumed into a purely English folk sound that combines psychedelia with acoustic instruments (and no doubt soft drugs).  Song structures often twist and turn, sections appear giving way to others before returning.  There is a whimsical surreal edge as though listening through a dream.  Although it is highly unlikely that folk music of previous centuries sounded like this, somehow these eras are directly evoked on the first album in songs like 'A Fantasy You' and 'A Glade Somewhere'.

 

On 'Nothing Else Will Matter' on the first album the band crystalise in a beautiful moment of blissed out lucidity and structure. 

 

The second album saw more structure and directness to the songs and these may make them more easily digested.  'Hawk The Hawked' combines gypsy sounding fiddle, steel guitar from Gordon Huntley and harmonica and reminds of Dr Strangely Strange.  'Bluebell Dance' is a chilling psychedelic pagan folk track with treated vocals, arpeggio guitars, a wildness and urgency running through it that suggests a sinister visitation from the lost people deep in the woods.  "Gypsy Girl and Rambleaway' precedes the kind of traveling gypsy folk that Ronnie Laine of the Faces would later take an interest in but in a more ancient and primal form.  Some songs like 'Do Not Walk In The Rain' combine piano played in a percussive style that combines with the bands unique instrumentation.  'Much Ado About Nothing' starts dream like but moves into an ancient sounding vocals only section that strips away two hundred years in seconds.  "Graveyard' starts plaintively with guitar that has a slight sitar type twang to it and introduces rhythmic whistles into the atmospheric graveyard journey and in the chorus sections has beautiful pipe based melodies.  "Famine Song' carries on the gorgeous whistles over organ before a stark vocal section.

 

'Autumn Childhood' ends the journey through the forest returning back to simple innocence accompanied by chiming mandolin and guitars.  It's quite beautiful and then speeds through a number of sections, strange, unsettling, often beautiful, always unique. 

 

'Inspired by a dream, this song is one of fantasy and mystique, but there could be an element of truth to it' (from the sleeve notes to 'Bluebell Dance' on Full Circle)

 

 

In an discussion with The Unbroken Circle in November 2004 Martin Welham of Forest remarked of their music:

 

"reading your comments is like going back to the Forest commune-like discussion sessions which accompanied our rehearsals when we were putting the music into shape.

Although there are no (known) recordings of our interpretation of folk songs (Famine Song excepted) our approach in this area which preceded our Forest output, was similarly deemed strange. Our great friends Roy, Heather and Pete of the Young Tradtion (an amazingly under-rated vocal harmony group) were a huge influence. Their unique ability to peel away the years to conjure up a magical, beautiful, sometimes sinister world awoke a recognition in us that somehow we had already experienced, as if in another life. The beauty of their music and their stunning live performances have never been properly acknowledged.

This is going to sound pretentious but...with Forest we aimed to take the listener on a kind of journey into a world where our shared sub-consciousness already dwelt - not always a comfortable ride! We also just enjoyed playing music together and never worried if we were popular or not - which was just as well as it turned out. I understand that the intensity of our music can be daunting and that there is no compromise - for better or worse that was Forest's approach. We have found that people either 'get it' or don't - there doesn't seem to be any middle ground and i suspect that that will always be the case.

Some of the most evocative brilliant Wyrd music we ever came across was played and sung by a duo called 'Holy Willy's Prayer'. Roy Wood of the Young Tradition introduced us to them and they played their music to us in their flat in North London, at a time when we were in transition from folk song interpreters to songwriters. They never 'made it' so to speak but the ghost of their beautiful creations still drifts around my mind and in some way epitomises the nature of this magical area of music - timeless moods, ambiences and atmospheres which resonate and linger while those who express them remain an unseen presence"

 

Forest Live At The BBC

 

26.3.69 John Peel's Night Ride (Recorded 18.3.69): A Glade Somewhere Pools Of Memory Reflecting In The Sea Mirror Of Life Smoke Fading Light Martin Welham (Guitar, Harmonica, Vocals) Adrian Welham (Guitar, Mandolin, Vocals) Derek Allenby (Mandolin, Harmonica, Whistle, Vocals) Failed by panel: 'cacophony', 'appalling sound, raggy and amateur', 'messy, uninspiring, distateful'

 

19.11.69 John Peel's Top Gear (Recorded 16.9.69): Gipsy Girl And Ramble Away Autumn Childhood Love's Memory Gone Mirror Of Life 2nd trial broadcast passed by panel. Did Peel Sunday concert

 

1.3.70 10.10.70 John Peel's Top Gear (Recorded 28.9.70): Hares On The Mountain Graveyard Hermit / Guardian Angel Hawk The Hawker (& 'Do Not Walk In The Rain' on repeat broadcast on 2.1.71)

 

15.3.71 Bob Harris' Sounds Of The Seventies (Recorded 2.3.71): Hawk The Hawker You Don't Know Graveyard 2nd Peel Sunday Concert 1.8.71

 

24.4.72 Bob Harris' Sounds Of The Seventies (Recorded 12.4.72): March Hare You Could Have Been A Gypsy I Wrote (& 'Pheobe' on repeat broadcast on 22.5.72)

 

23.10.72 Bob Harris' Sounds Of The Seventies (Recorded 27.9.72): Leave My Woman Alone Love's Memory Gone Regarding The Turning Of The Day New members Dave Panton and Dave Statts replaced Derek Allenby.

 

 

Obtaining Forest music

 

Both the Forest albums were compiled on a double CD set released by BGO records that is generally still available.  To explore obtaining this album now from Amazon or other sources click here.

 

Dez Allenby of Forest is still working and has his own web site.  To obtain the link click here.

 

'Nothing Else Will Matter' and 'Bluebell Dance' were both compiled on the 'Lammas Night Laments' sampler compilation CDrs available through this web site.  To read more about these CDs please click here.

 

 

 

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'A Glade Somewhere'

From the first album, 1969

'Graveyard'

from the second album 'Full Circle', 1970